Well, it was an excellent and timely post. It *is* complicated…and yes, he is right, I see it from the perspective that I cannot impose my morality upon my diverse and secular society and then in the same breath say I respect other people’s religions and viewpoints. I either respect them or I don’t. I am fiercely pro-life when it comes to my own womb, but will just as fiercely protect another woman’s right to choose that for herself. Of course, I will strongly advocate for adoption if given the opportunity and have on many occasions. Like Don Miller said, feeling self righteous and throwing broken bottles at women getting birth control is no way to have a conversation. And prayer…I feel the need to pray deeply for the women who feel trapped in the decision and for those that perish.

Ouch. Terrible! I like Don Miller’s post
http://storylineblog.com/2013/04/22/talking-points-for-the-pro-life-movement/
I quote
2. Lose the Self-Righteous Tone: There are people who have taken up the pro-life issue to get a personal feeling of self-righteousness. Tragically, this is an issue in which they can feel like a humanitarian without having to lift a finger. But the self-righteous tone must go. It only offends people and creates a stronger opposition.

3. We Cannot Demonize the Opposition: Demonizing people who are pro-choice (slightly more than 50% of the population) will win nobody.
4. Acknowledge the Issue is Complicated: For the average pro-choice person, abortion is about women’s equality and women’s rights. While you and I may understand the issue from the perspective of the unborn, pro-choice people see the issue from the perspective of a woman’s right to choose. This isn’t an issue in which most people think about rationally. It becomes like a coin in that it’s nearly impossible to see both sides at the same time. ”
He is a good, cool, rational thinker on this terribly emotive subject. I almost didn’t publish my post when I looked a foetal images the night before it went live!

I used to volunteer my time as an adopted child to two different organizations…Catholic Charities talking to birth moms about the beauty of adoption and Planned Parenthood to act as a body shield for the women coming in for birth control on Saturdays. And yes, I said a human shield because the *Christian* protesters threw rocks, bottles, cans and filthy garbage at these poor women. PP never did abortions on Saturday in case the woman had to be transported to the hospital with complications yet the protesters didn’t care about that. I have scars on my back from broken bottles and rocks throw by followers of Jesus at women trying to do the responsible and affordable thing…get birth control from somewhere that didn’t require insurance and was inexpensive. I’m not sure the Jesus you speak of in your post would have condoned that behavior.

I am Apolitical!

Why did you delete my carefully considered comment which took me hours to write? c.90% of my reply to your post was direct bible quotes, so I was not talking rubbish of my own inventon, but God’s word, which I let speak for itself!
I was polite in my writing, and hurled no abuse at you, nor anyone else.
We cannot know God’s mind on ANYTHING without his Word, given through the bible, so I was hoping your readers would look at the verses I quoted and understand something of what God has to say. He certainly does not endorse us living our lives as we see fit if that is disobedient to his Word.

Thank you for publishing a iew contrary to your own.
I do not hold any political position. I see good and bad in all (UK) political parties and am a typical floating voter.

Abortion is morally murder even if not so in UK law.
Interesting that the state of Ohio is considering requesting execution of Ariel Castro for kicking to death 5 unborn babies whilst in the womb… I don’t see why medically/surgically induced killing is any different…

We are straying a bit from the subject of my post, but the way I see it, ultimately God decides if our actions are “sinful” or not. The church community get to decide if they want us in it or not. Blessings, Anita

Thank you for all these Bible verses. Nowhere am I suggesting that Jesus or I support murder. And yes, we will be known by our FRUIT, not our political positions. Thanks

Luke 17:3 “If your brother sins, rebuke him.” (This is not judging!)

Colossians 3:16 “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another…” (This is not judging!)

2 Timothy 3:16 “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.” (not judging!)

– Anita, I see nothing in the bible to support your supposition that Jesus supports murder, either of the born, or the as yet unborn. Jesus endorses the 6th commandment not to murder in the sermon on the mount (Matt 5:21).
Revelation 22:18 “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophesy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. Ad if anyone takes words away from this book of prophesy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.”
If a non-Christian supports abortion, either by having one or “approving of those who practise them” (Rom 1:32) they need to repent of this sin which will separate them from God for all eternity (as will all sins, not just murder/abortion.)
If someone who considers themselves a Christian approves of abortion, the need to ask whether they are truely saved, born again, whether God has really given them a new heart… Abortion may be evidence that they are a false convert;
Matthew 7:20ff ” By their fruit you will recognise them. Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only he who does the will of my Father, who is in heaven.”